On Saturday September 1 in Gold Coast, QLD the TOTAL CARNAGE II attempts to bring you the second sensation in australian muaythai promoting the most anticipated rematch since 6 years – Nathan Carnage Corbett vs Steve McKinnon.
The actual show TOTAL CARNAGE 2 is confirmed and I know it will be the top Hollywood Attitude with Las Vegas Style promotion featuring Australia’s and World’s N1 muaythai names on the fight card.
* Why I am saying ‘attempts‘ is due to this main event – CARNAGE vs MCKINNON – agreement and I will post about it below in this article.
For now let’s put things clear about Nathan Corbett as there were quite a few silly things said about him on Australia’s forum under the thread ‘Nathan Corbett 95kg World Champ…Yeah right‘.
Let me answer this question not even on Nathan’s behalf or his trainer or manager as I pretty much have nothing to do with them.
Let me answer this question from the side of sport. He is NOT 95kg World champion and never claimed to be and that’s it. You know why? Simply because the weight division 95kg DOES NOT EXIST. So to ask this kind of question its a little bit silly, no?
The two bodies WBC & WKN have different weight division, I suppose due to WBC muaythai being affiliated under boxing and its categories, and WKN having professional muaythai & kickboxing divisions.
So making some research it all comes quite comprehensive and evident.
* Oh also there is NOTHING political between WBC Muay Thai & WKN, simply different conditions. By the way it was great to meet and chat again with the WBC Australia Man Mr Brad Vocale last Saturday in Perth and we are also proud that he was a head-referee at Total Carnage and will be on the following editions for sure. We are all from SPORT, not politics. We work TOGETHER developing Australian muaythai.
NATHAN CARNAGE CORBETT’S OPPONENTS
Another thing said about Nathan is that he is picking his opponents.
Put it simple: When Nathan fought Pavel Zhuravlev on September 17, 2010 in Perth and won the WKN World heavyweight title, Pavel was managed by WKN World Office and he was the N1 challenger put front of Nathan. Pavel is winning pretty much all his fights after he fought Nathan as well, and it was not an easy win for Corbett either.
When Corbett defended his WKN World title against Stephane Susperregui on April 7, 2012 in Gold Coast the story was even more interesting. Stephane WANTED to fight Nathan and take his title. See below for yourself the message from Stephane’s manager on December 2011 which means he was keen to fight him since last year. Then the match was arranged & confirmed by WKN World Office as usual.
“Hello,I saw that Nathan Corbett is still the WKN Muay Thai world champion.Stephane Susperregui is K-1 WKN world champ but is fighting muay thai as well.If you are looking for an opponent for Nathan next fight, feel free to give my details away.”
The next Corbett’s fight will be in Melbourne on June 23 at Kings of Kombat 7 under K-1 rules which is not traditional for him as the thai-elbows are not allowed. Though he takes the challenge and will fight Marc Adrian from Romania who was proposed & chosen by WKN World Office from about 7 or 8 potential opponents, and confirmed and agreed with the promoter Mr Hisham Hanna and Corbett’s management and now it is finalized.
* Note, the fight will be at fixed 95KG not less not more as it is a special agreement. If it was a title fight the athletes could weigh from +92.700 to -96.600 not heavier. Simply from super-cruiser weight to super-heavyweight, which means ALL in between.
(BY THE WAY the fighter can be a champion in one particular weight division and compete in any weight he wants. Like Powdrill for example, he fights from 78kg to 86 kg.)
Of course I am talking about the shows sanctioned by WKN and its weight-categories, where Nathan fought, gained and defended that title of World heavyweight champion. As basically during the last years he fought for the World title twice only which is enough I suppose being a real champion, not a ‘Christmas tree’ winning no-matter what belts.
Corbett fought only against the top-class fighters presented above. It it is clear that during all his carrier, of course, he collected the titles in different weight divisions which is normal when fighter is growing.
* If you haven’t watch the video related to this article, watch it now below and keep reading.
NATHAN CORBETT VS STEVE MCKINNON FIGHT DECISION AUG ’06
CARNAGE VS MCKINNON REMATCH – TO BE CONFIRMED
* Now let’s get back to the main topic with the details and facts.
DETAILS OF THE ORIGINAL FIGHT CONDITIONS
The original bout was a non title fight
The original fight was at 92.000 kg
The fight was under full muay thai rules
FACTS TO DATE OF THE REMATCH HOPEFULLY TO HAPPEN
The rematch is proposed by Corbett’s management which means he wants to fight.
The date of the show, venue confirmed.
The money is proposed by Total Carnage Promotion and agreed by McKINNON’s camp. It means Corbett can not be called greedy or sneaky who tries to avoid the fight by saying he wants more $ or no fight.
The fight will be under full muay thai rules.
Weight division is NOT agreed.
What I see and what we all know in any sport when it is a REMATCH it falls under the same conditions as the original competition. So basically if it was 92.000 kg full muay thai rules – it must be re-matched at 92.000 kg full muay thai rules which is FAIR, no?
According to Corbett’s management they are happy to let it be even 92.500 which is 500 gram more. However McKINNON’s camp wants 95. If it is 95 it is NOT a REMATCH because it is a fight in a different weight division and conditions automatically become different.
I fully understand Steve, it is very hard to loose heaps of weight and fight the day after the weigh in. However it is just a part of the game which we all love.
* There is no chance to involve or speculate with the sanctioning bodies as explained above and most of all the original fight was a NO title fight and the rematch will be a NO title fight, regardless what sanctioning body will be covering the who show.
I am not defending anybody, not trying to make anybody look better or worse. Steve McKINNON is a great guy and a true champion and fights big names same as CARNAGE. My personal impression about Nathan is publish here (if anybody cares haha) and who his opponents and where they appear was just mentioned above.
Though rematch is a rematch and TOTAL CARNAGE PROMOTIONS does everything possible to make it happen and make Australian fight fans happy, because this bout is really the most anticipated.
Promoters are now waiting Steve McKINNON’s camp to agree the original fight conditions – e.g. original weight division – and this rematch will happen.
Comments on “Carnage vs McKinnon Rematch To Be Confirmed”
Carnage fights at around 95 all the time but wont fight Mckinnon at that because its Mckinnons preferred weight
Carnage will use every dirty tactic to avoid giving Steve a go at their usual weights and to say its not a rematch at 95kg is insane
Does that mean if 2 footy teams have a rematch but they select a slightly different team on the day its no longer a rematch or would a venue change make it no longer a rematch?
Its a rematch as long as its same rules same fighters
i thought a rematch has to be within a year.so the rules can be changed.why is carnage team saying 92kg.. when he weighs 95kg,,fair would be both 95kg.. steve still has to reduce weight..and the money isnt coming out of nathans pocket..
well politics aside if this fight happens “again” Corbett will knock Mckinnon clean out …. period
Steve called out Nathan at capital punishment 5 after his win. Saying he deserved the fight that every one wants to see happen. Obviously it’s in Nathan’s interest to have a successful promotion. People who think Nathan would win easily do your research and it might become clear why there has been no rematch for so long. Steve was the only one to cut Corbett and Steve matched Corbett despite being in bed sick with the flu days before the fight so was no where near 100%. Nathan would hate to lose what many regard as his number1 ranking.
if this fight happens again mckinnon will knock out corbett
hey parviz.. i thought you wer,nt bias.. haha..its so obvious you go for nathan in this article and post..
I am not going for anyone as to be honest I absolutely don’t care who wins . The strongest will .
I have put more stuff about Nath and who he fought simply because there were a lot of shit hang on him on IK forum . So i preferred to clear things up for everybody . As people talk shit without doing any research . I published FACTS only .
they say he fights bums etc . which is lie and just stupid .
I know Steve fought Susperregui as well and won on points in a hard fight . He fights top names as well as Carnage.
I work with Total Carnage from the side of WKN and of course it will be good for national australian sport to have this fight happening in September .
It is pretty much the same what Wayne Parr said – to be recognized in your motherland you must win the best here .
but on international market eg europe , usa this fight means absolutely zero .
what i am saying regarding the weight division – i would want rematch to happen in the most preferable division for ME , not for my opponent .
It is normal and everybody wants it .
and i still state the rules to be the same as the original fight . that’s it and it is fair .
for all lovers and haters one good advise – IT IS SPORT , very traditional martial art , which states LOYALTY & RESPECT .
Shortly it is SPORTSMANSHIP .
great fight if it happen. Corbett would be beter of asking mckinnon for a drug test than lower weight.
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